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wduquetteβ€’13 minutes ago
I'd add Owen Lattimore's Desert Road to Turkestan: Lattimore traveled through the Central Asian deserts with a camel caravan in the 1930's, one of few westerner's ever to do so; and also Richard Hopkirk's Foreign Devils on the Silk Road, about the first European explorers to enter that region.
timdiggermβ€’about 3 hours ago
This list is just a promo blog post for the author's book
Insanityβ€’about 2 hours ago
I fail to see why that devalues this list of books. It's not like he's _only_ listing his own book.
ownlifeβ€’about 2 hours ago
Arguably, it devalues this list of books because it calls into question its credibility and its author's seriousness.
Insanityβ€’26 minutes ago
If this was a pure advertising piece, I might agree. In this case, it's more "hey I wrote a book on this, these are other books that are great". That's kinda different at least in my mind.
johngossmanβ€’about 1 hour ago
While I generally do not trust information from "advertisements", in this case I don't see how this is any worse than including a list of sources in the bibliography. What this could be is an attempt to use those other books to sell the author's through some reflected glory (or SEO-fu) but in that case, the author is still incentivized to recommend good books.
johngossmanβ€’about 8 hours ago
Good list. It does not include "Silk Roads" by Frankopan, which I agree with. That's a good read but much more a history of world trade (hence the plural) and strangely western-centric. I saw strangely because in the introduction Frankopan says he wanted to write a history from the point of view on central Asia, but its not that at all. Dalyrymple's "Golden Road" succeeds at Frankopan's objective and I found it much better in general. I don't want to sound too negative on "Silk Roads" but I think the title is subtly misleading if you want to learn about the trade general referred to as the Silk Road.
Mainan_Tagonistβ€’about 5 hours ago
Yes, Frankopan's Silk Roads was a disappointment to say the least, I was really expecting an enlightening history of the middle east, starting from the early interrelations between the various civilisations (Egypt, Babylon, Harappan) and the progression through time (for example mentioning the Periplus of Roman adventurers into the far east). Good histories of China (Goldman/Fairbanks), and India (Keay) had whetted my appetite, and I think I'll need to read Dalrymple to be fully sated.
Mainan_Tagonistβ€’about 5 hours ago
Tim Severin is referenced in the list, so i would suggest as an addition Tracking Marco Polo by the very same author, a fun read indeed. From Goodreads: Tim Severin took up the challenge offered from antiquity by Marco Polo. Using the great explorer's journals as a route guide, Severin followed him all the way from Venice to Afghanistan - on a motorbike. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1735662.Tracking_Marco_P...
qartβ€’about 8 hours ago
The author of the first book listed there explains there was no ancient Silk Road. This concept was dreamt up in 1877.

https://youtube.com/shorts/Ki4UQ20tWQk

bwbβ€’about 8 hours ago
ya, there were a bunch of trade routes along this path to all the different regions/cities. We just named the entire concept the "Silk Road" in the 1800s (it was coined in 1877 by Ferdinand von Richthofen).
bwbβ€’2 days ago
Great list by an absolute expert on the subject :)

I'm hoping to do the Silk Route by bike in the next couple of years. TAD Global Cycling puts together yearly runs, and it looks amazing: https://tdaglobalcycling.com/silk-route

shrxβ€’about 9 hours ago
I traveled some of the countries along the way last year, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan (by hiking and offroad vehicles). The landscape is beautiful, but be very prepared to survive in the scorching sun and dust in the desert for days without any option to resupply food and water. We met some solo cyclists along the way, I have great respect for those individuals. For example, this is how the main road looks like in some parts of Tajikistan: https://i.imgur.com/MlZauBn.jpeg The traffic on these roads consists mostly of Chinese trucks and an occasional crazy traveler like us. Note how a secondary track emerged along the side of the main road because the original one became so filled with potholes.
bwbβ€’about 8 hours ago
Nice picture :)

The nice thing about going with a group is that it comes with a support vehicle and water/food/bag carrying. Doing it on my own would be about 10x more intense in terms of prep, I think. I've watched a few biking videos where they started getting close to the edge on water and had to ask random houses they finally found.

defrostβ€’about 8 hours ago
If you like an epic trek, there's always horseback: https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna20925119
TFNAβ€’about 8 hours ago
"be very prepared to survive in the scorching sun and dust in the desert for days without any option to resupply food and water"

I have done Central Asia from Europe to China by bike twice, most recently 2024. Absolutely no problem with resupplying food and water daily. There are food stops and railway-worker infrastructure in the Kazakh and Uzbek deserts. And while Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan have a lot of wild mountain beauty, they are still inhabited. Indeed, local families earn some money by catering to cyclists.

bwbβ€’about 8 hours ago
Ah great to hear :), thanks!

Did you do it solo or with someone or a group?

paganelβ€’about 7 hours ago
About this book: "Letters of Medieval Jewish Traders", and especially about this source of information:

> Shlomo Goitein used the documents that were serendipitously discovered in the geniza of the Cairo synagogue

I'm still waiting for a proper "inclusion" of their contents in the "main" historical discourse, it's a pity that there aren't much many historians going through them and using their contents. From the dedicated wiki page [1]:

> The Cairo Geniza, alternatively spelled the Cairo Genizah, is a collection of some 400,000[1] Jewish manuscript fragments and Fatimid administrative documents that were kept in the genizah or storeroom of the Ben Ezra Synagogue in Fustat or Old Cairo, Egypt. (...) comprise the largest and most diverse collection of medieval manuscripts in the world.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairo_Geniza