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cosmic_cheeseabout 10 hours ago
This makes a lot of sense if public participation is actually desired. Links need to be short, snappy, and memorable so they're easy to either type into a smartphone on the spot or be recalled at some point later when one has a spare moment. This kind of link is also more likely to spread via word of mouth.

Traditional link shorteners only meet one of those requirements. Random strings aren't going to be remembered and the chances that they'll be mistyped is substantially higher.

mmoossabout 9 hours ago
At least some traditional link shorterners let you choose the string.
lzyabout 10 hours ago
This is similar to Singapore’s https://go.gov.sg links.

Functions exactly like tinyurl, generally used by public officers for the various programmes/initiatives from the ministries and agencies.

NSPG911about 10 hours ago
it would be nice if they added a link preview

not sure why they have never done that before

kmfrkabout 2 hours ago
What format would people generally prefer for shorturls if they were designing a website for readability, maintenance, and SEO?

foo.website.com/{initiative} or website.com/foo/{initiative}? And are there any optimal names for foo that also make the scheme more intelligible to the average person?

embedding-shape43 minutes ago
> foo.website.com/{initiative} or website.com/foo/{initiative}? And are there any optimal names for foo that also make the scheme more intelligible to the average person?

Is "foo" part of "website" or is "foo" separate from other similar organizations? Subdomains you'd use maybe for a different department, but if it's the same department, prefer paths.

Basically signals how connected it'd be to the main org.

But all this is basically feelings and "common sense" rather than anything strictly specified. You'd be able to make use of foo.website.com as well as you'll be able to use website.com/foo in practice, very minutia detail.

gravypodabout 11 hours ago
People are discovering go links from first principles.
thoughtpeddlerabout 6 hours ago
The meta on this post is that the minimalist blog design by iamwillwang.com is itself really cool. Great work!
WarmWashabout 10 hours ago
I'm not a huge fan of Zohran, but man, I will admit that it is so refreshing to have a leader that isn't senile and is actually in touch.
patconabout 5 hours ago
Imho they should def be using a separately managed go.nyc.gov or link.nyc.gov DNS record

But I appreciate the intent..!

madeofpalkabout 2 hours ago
What's the upside of this? Seems like it would only make links longer and more annoying to type in, when the intention is to make civic participation easier.
articulatepangabout 4 hours ago
I’m genuinely curious: why should it be on a separately managed DNS record?
hebelehubeleabout 1 hour ago
There wouldn't be any benefit to it. They're not accepting user-submitted content. I doubt anyone working for the NYC would upload CP and share a link to it.
ewweabout 11 hours ago
Mamdani+ his team are genius at PR
SwellJoeabout 11 hours ago
Given how untrustworthy the most popular social media providers have proven to be, it's madness that so many politicians and government accounts still use things like Xitter or facebook as their primary communication medium.

Even ignoring the political misinformation that is rampant on these platforms and often promoted widely by the platform because it is inflammatory and gets lots of engagement, they also severely punish posts that link away from the site, which public safety and government accounts obviously need to do. It's a hazard for public safety info to be targeted primarily at a feed designed to bury it. Even if you're following those accounts on Xitter or facebook, they're effectively never going to show you their posts.

toomuchtodoabout 9 hours ago
fmajidabout 4 hours ago
This is what happens when Boomer politicians are finally kicked to the curb.
jasoncartwrightabout 1 hour ago
bbc.co.uk/thing is the standard for URLs used like this at the BBC, and it works great there too. The ubiquity of BBC URLs on audio/video in the UK helps.

Here's what it was like beforehand. Laughable! https://youtu.be/MEN8KvEuYhE?t=54

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micromacrofootabout 11 hours ago
this is how the government should communicate with its people - push out via all social media channels but always link back to something everyone can access!

hopefully this stuff gets pushed out via email too? not enough open protocols to receive pushes from otherwise

jacheeabout 11 hours ago
What if I told you there’s an existing protocol for doing Really Simple Syndication?
tadfisherabout 11 hours ago
Sorry, we're on the wrong timeline. The worse one, in fact.
amazingamazingabout 11 hours ago
I like click to cancel. Should have a year at least in url
jancsikaabout 8 hours ago
> click-to-cancel combat-antisemitism EndStreetHarassment jingle knicks knicksgame3 rental-ripoff Summer

I'd like to believe that the diversity, equity, and inclusion of Scheme, Pascal, and C stdlib naming conventions here is intentional.

dglabout 4 hours ago
I put a short link on a family thing and someone complained it didn't work. Turns out iOS OCR recognised a "-" as a "=", so this isn't just people typing it wrong.

Now my short links implement case insensitivity and striping all non alphanumeric characters, i.e. a "-" is optional and any other symbol character is also stripped.

nyc.gov seems to do case insensitivity but doesn't strip "-", so you do need the "-".

fnyabout 7 hours ago
Flame wars. City council will soon debate two vs four spaces between traffic cones.
penguin_boozeabout 5 hours ago
I will not stand and watch tabs getting discriminated!
voidUpdateabout 2 hours ago
> "click-to-cancel combat-antisemitism EndStreetHarassment jingle knicks knicksgame3 rental-ripoff Summer"

We didn't start the fire!

afavourabout 5 hours ago
Typical, all this DEI naming, promoting minority formats no one uses, while they refuse to recognize the majority are perfectly happy with camelCase!

(/s in case it is needed)

GauntletWizardabout 11 hours ago
The problem with these short pithy urls is that their lifetime is limited - there's only so many initiative names and they're going to collide and be removed and replaced.

Cool uris don't change[1]. Short, readable uris are great but they should be merely redirecs, and the mapping should be version controlled and exposed to the public as an immutable history.

[1] https://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI

pavo-etcabout 11 hours ago
Luckily these are merely redirects!
markdownabout 10 hours ago
stonogoabout 10 hours ago
The lifetime of the programs they link to is also limited. There's no earthly reason, when running a website in 2026, to care what Tim Berners-Lee thought about the aesthetics and purposes of URLs in 1998. It's a nice nostalgia session, but "cool urls don't change" is ironically short-sighted and has lead to well-meaning dolts embedding GUIDs and other such constructs into them. The entire concept was posited prior to the advent of on-screen phone keyboards, which make typing long heavily-punctuated urls a pain in the ass. There are a thousand reasons to salute this document and let it recede into the mists of time.

A municipal website should be useful to the citizens who want to use it. This is a great example of doing something useful with the web.

jimmydoeabout 11 hours ago
does it matter?

big tech has long canceled url on phones.

apiabout 11 hours ago
I can type a URL on today's iPhone just fine.
slopinthebagabout 11 hours ago
This seems so amateur hour. The way the links work in this post are broken on mobile, and the first one I managed to make work was full of trivial grammatical errors.
bakiesabout 11 hours ago
Works on my machine. Didn't see any grammar errors.