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Discussion (34 Comments)Read Original on HackerNews

phtrivier•about 3 hours ago
No idea about the products, or if it is "good news for founders, and bad for consumers" as is unfortunately sometimes the case.

But thanks for wording the press release as "company X acquired company Y", and not some weasely lingo line like "Y is joining the X family".

kshahkshah•29 minutes ago
A competent administration would bring about an antitrust suit here I feel.
akrolsmir•about 10 hours ago
Oh awesome! I love Stripe Atlas overall for the fast/excellent UX, but Clerky supports PBCs and a higher degree of customization (eg useful for incorporating for https://manifest.is since we had previously agreed on an informal equity split with a bunch of people).

Hoping that now they'll have the best of both worlds!

HPMOR•about 12 hours ago
Clerky is great, Stripe is really buying all of the great product companies. I feel like with Clerky and Stripe Atlas they, Stripe now controls all of the early incorporation infrastructure now. This feels deeply problematic.
georgel•about 12 hours ago
> controls all of the early incorporation infrastructure

You don't need to rely on Stripe to do anything. There are other payment gateways, and you can file things yourself (or hire someone).

Do they make things very easy and accessible for a smaller fee than doing it yourself, yes.

brianwawok•about 12 hours ago
In fact Atlas and their push to be a C-Corp is a bad play for us small timers
codemog•about 10 hours ago
What’s with all these acquisitions? Stripe realizing it’s going to slowly become PayPal 2.0 because infinite growth doesn’t exist?
hibikir•about 10 hours ago
Doing just payments is a really low margin industry, and the larger the contract you are after, the lower the margins. Therefore, it makes a lot of sense to try to sign up startups, as their growth is your growth. And to win in the startup market, you don't win by lowest costs, but by how much generic work you can save them. Cut their headaches, and they'll be happy giving you a wider cut.

Thus, a million little acquisitions to make the possible Stripe bundle for small companies stronger, as they become the moat. The opposite of, say, the Adyen play, when you want to lower your own costs, and make money on tiny margins to do processing for really large companies.

whazor•about 5 hours ago
My analysis is that Stripe wants to own the costs of running a startup. They would get a complete picture of both sides of the business: what money comes in and where it goes.

There are also a couple of advantages. They can take money directly from revenue before it leaves Stripes and without any processing costs. They can also invest into startups through credits and financing. And finally, their exposure to bankruptcy risk can drop as well.

benatkin•about 9 hours ago
AI is making it a low-moat industry too. It's a lot quicker to build some API docs, a behavior tracking JavaScript library, and some fraud detection, with LLMs.
testbjjl•about 9 hours ago
I think about their IPO and what seems and likely still is a promising offering seems a little less so with AI offerings. I also wonder if these businesses, suffering from the same AI uncertainties are a good value?
fny•about 7 hours ago
I think the aim is to become the agent for commerce.
amelius•about 1 hour ago
Like a regulator. Great!

If you don't like a government regulating a market then you haven't seen a company do it.

CodeCompost•about 5 hours ago
I'm getting Gordon Gecko vibes.
vxxzy•about 9 hours ago
we will soon be in the last month of q3
gkoberger•about 10 hours ago
Huge congrats to Clerky. They've been doing thins for a very long time, and have awesome support + a solid product (that just... does what it's supposed to do). Congrats Darby and team!
davidsojevic•about 13 hours ago
Congratulations to Darby, Chris, and the team!

Clerky is an absolutely amazing product and the team there are equally as amazing.

swampthing•about 12 hours ago
Thank you, and thank you for being a part of our journey!
nezaj•about 12 hours ago
+1 to Clerky being a great product. Was super useful for us when incorporating and after as well
swampthing•about 11 hours ago
Thank you!
chupchap•about 9 hours ago
I think Stripe is looking at companies using their services and identifying companies to acquire. This reminds me of Facebook looking at data from pixel data to identify apps with heavy usage they could acquire.
tagalog•about 6 hours ago
Used Clerky ten years ago to make my company. Great experience!
alberth•about 11 hours ago
I thought Atlas was pretty comparable to Clerky.

What does Clerky do that Atlas doesn’t to justify the acquisition?

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Computer0•about 14 hours ago
I really can't bring myself to put myself behind stripe. Maybe it's because of how the Paypal people turned out. Maybe it is just a dirty business to be in.