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vijucat3 minutes ago
Question: if I don't use TUIs or millions of lines of scrolling text, what am I missing by not using these newer terminal implementations? I use mintty on Windows and am pretty happy with it.
dakraabout 2 hours ago
Hi! Maintainer of Ghostel here.

baokaola and I actually wanted to do a "Show HN" next week, but looks like someone was faster submitting the link.

Have a look at the GitHub repo which is a bit nicer for a quick overview: https://github.com/dakra/ghostel

To add some context, Ghostel is a terminal emulator for Emacs powered by libghostty-vt.

There's a feature comparison vs vterm and eat: https://dakra.github.io/ghostel/#ghostel-vs-vterm

And here is a gist with images to compare performance and correctness: https://gist.github.com/dakra/4a0b76ebcf5d52338e134864378465...

But for me personally, it has not only replaced vterm/eat but also any other external terminal like kitty/Ghostty.

Having your terminal text just like a normal Emacs buffer opens up so many possibilities and extension points that are just not available on any other terminal.

Even simple stuff like searching in the scrollback, then navigating and selecting+copying a paragraph only with the keyboard. For every Emacs user that's so natural and fast in Ghostel while often cumbersome in other Terminals where I just reach to the mouse because it's easier.

Happy to answer any questions and also like to hear feedback positive or negative.

If you're an Emacs user and tried Ghostel and are still using Ghostty (or another external Terminal), is there something Ghostel is missing or is it just because you want some processes to run outside of Emacs?

baokaola and I are also very active on GitHub, so feel free to open an issue if you have any.

LtdJorge3 minutes ago
I think the title should mention Emacs somewhere. A terminal emulator is different than a terminal emulator for Emacs.
jdormitabout 3 hours ago
I recently switched from vterm to ghostel, and it is generally much, much better - noticeably faster (e.g. fancy TUI apps that try to refresh the whole terminal every frame actually work), more reliable input handling, and a nicer ELisp API.

That being said, there are still some rough edges. Sometimes it fails to properly clear the terminal, leaving junk at the top of the buffer before the currrent prompt line. And on a couple of occasions it has totally frozen, with no fix other than killing the buffer and starting over.

Overall, it’s very promising and totally usable as a daily driver, but it needs a bit of polish and bug fixes before I would consider it mature.

baokaolaabout 2 hours ago
Ghostel co-maintainer here: Understand if you don't have a repro, but if you ever have something actionable we'd love it if you filed an issue, or have the information get to us some other way.

The junk at the top of the screen sounds like it could be https://github.com/dakra/ghostel/issues/495 and it should be fixed on later versions. But maybe you're seeing another bug. The tricky part is replicating the libghostty-vt internal data into an Emacs buffer while only replacing the parts that need to be replaced. We have property based tests to exercise this a lot, but sometimes things slip through.

The latest released version as I'm writing this should have improved lifecycle handling, so maybe it also fixes some of your issues.

As you say, the project is still in the early phase so hopefully, we can iron things out over time.

ivanjermakovabout 1 hour ago
> The native module is a prebuilt binary that auto-downloads on first use

Why? Keep it a part of distribution.

aftergibsonabout 2 hours ago
This is working great, it plus the Claude code integration has really adjusted how much I use Emacs. It's become a bit of a hub for me now.