I Did Not Kill Stanley Lieber: How to Draw (With 9front)

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egypturnash•about 1 hour ago

I cannot help but feel like these drawing methods are more hassle than carrying around an actual sketchbook and a few pens/pencils. Whatever makes you happy, I guess; at least you're not typing shit into an image generator and saying this makes you a great artist.

Y_Y•about 6 hours ago

The author of this, pmjv, is also the champion of unix surrealism, which some of you may recognize and others may enjoy.

https://lemmy.sdf.org/c/unix_surrealism

yjftsjthsd-h•about 15 hours ago

> 2.3.5 Straight Line

> Use a ruler.

Somehow, in spite of noting the unusual physicality of this approach, I was profoundly unprepared to see a physical ruler being used on a touchscreen. Nice.

indrora•about 3 hours ago

I'm not sure what you expected.

yjftsjthsd-h•about 2 hours ago

A digital/software line tool. They're drawing on a computer; I am very habituated to seeing things stay on the screen.

jdboyd•about 10 hours ago

What was your reaction to the CD then?

rakel_rakel•about 8 hours ago

People creating things that didn't exist before is so refreshing, and Prahou is such an amazing artist. Making it look easy (or for the untrained eye like silly scribbles on old thinkpads) he created a whole world around his characters, and the talent and rigor is super impressing.

I would recommend anyone to dive into it!

Alien1Being•about 13 hours ago

When mankind comes to the final judgement, the existence of 9front will be one of the three things keeping us from destruction....

Apropos Pirkei Avot Chapter 1, Verse 2...

minusLik•about 7 hours ago

> Wacomized laptops with pens. > Crack the screen open and draw on it.

I don't think "crack the screen open" is the best choice of words here …

olivierestsage•about 7 hours ago

I’ve never used 9front but I love the whole culture around it in posts like these.

AdmiralAsshat•about 14 hours ago

Is the Stanley Lieber referred to by the title someone other than the Stanley Lieber (a.k.a. "Stan Lee") of Marvel Comics fame?

calvinmorrison•about 13 hours ago

Yes

dsign•about 12 hours ago

Deeply disappointed to read it doesn't work for iconoclasts.

kvdveer•about 10 hours ago

Or atheists for that matter.

I was a bit put off by the implied hostility there, even if it was in jest. It's a risky choice to jokingly discriminate based on religion, ethnicity or political affiliation, mostly because such a joke is hard to distinguish from almost identical contexts where it isn't a joke.

ori_b•about 3 hours ago

It sounds like it didn't appeal to at least one atheist. Truth in advertising.

oxonia•about 7 hours ago

Oy vey.

benj111•about 9 hours ago

Would the world be a better place if no one told any jokes that 'might' upset others?

I'm an atheist too. I just gave a middle finger to the author and carried on reading.

I haven't really delved that much onto 9front but they do have an interesting style, see for example https://9front.org/propaganda/ yes it's probably going to rub people up the wrong way, but at least it isn't more corporate bs.

kvdveer•about 8 hours ago

It feels different if someone has recently been discriminated against. Jokes land differently when they are too similar to reality.

That said, making edgy joking is definitely acceptable, you'll just alienate part of your audience. That's why the hollow corporate bs doesn't do it.

stavros•about 12 hours ago

What's this? What's 9front? Who's Stanley Lieber? This is so confusing.

xelxebar•about 12 hours ago

9front is a fork of Plan 9, the operating system that runs Jurassic Park[0]. Stanley Leiber is a prominent contributor, albeit whose existence is humourously-but-seriously-maybe debated. The whole community has a post-ironic humor that is very GenZ but before GenZ was cool or even born.

The Plan 9 Foundation commissions local artists for it's swag at the annual workshops. I'm guessing this article is tangentially related.

I daily drive 9front, so I might be biased.

[0]:https://fqa.9front.org/fqa0.html#0.1.1

mattmanser•about 11 hours ago

Is that gen z humour?

As it reads more to me like it's Douglas Adams humour, i.e. 1980s humour.

British, post-Python absurdist humour or whatever you'd call it.

sznio•about 8 hours ago

as a gen z - same thing

stavros•about 12 hours ago

Ahh I see, thank you.

ButlerianJihad•about 11 hours ago

You must be joking about Jurassic Park, right?

The systems in Jurassic Park are clearly and obviously running IRIX on SGI workstations, and the girl character says as much when she recognizes Unix. The file system navigator app is famous from its appearance there.

Plan 9 has never been portrayed as a running system in Hollywood, because it has never run any system of consequence in real life either.

pjmlp•about 9 hours ago

In fact, it was quickly superseded by Inferno and Limbo, in AT&T race to compete with JavaOS, which is why Dis also got initial support to convert between bytecode formats.

Overall, after the sale to Vita Nuova, one could assert Inferno has had much more real commercial use than Plan 9 has ever had outside Bell Labs.

Yet Plan 9 fans seldom acknowledge it was a transition between UNIX and Inferno.

cyber_kinetist•about 11 hours ago

... it's a joke. A perfect example of how Plan 9 humor works.

polotics•about 11 hours ago

this doesn't actually teach anything about how to draw. there is one thing about using a layer for drafting, but apart from that it is how to use this very specific piece of software if you already have some skills and techniques

2b3a51•about 5 hours ago

I think 'to draw' is ambiguous here. You took the phrase to mean 'some strategies and techniques for making good drawings' and the author possibly meant 'how to make marks like you would with normal painting software but working around the foibles of 9front's paint'.

But then the whole thing has to be seen as whimsical.